There are just some interviews and conversations where one wants to have a front row seat. Oh to be a fly on the wall and hear singer-songwriter and activist Joan Baez speak to actor and activist Jane Fonda. These women have incredible stories.
Their lives in the activism world would often intertwine. Jane’s ex-husband Roger Vadim claimed to have slept with Joan, but she denies it. The women got real about sex and intimacy in their frank discussion. Both Joan and Jane don’t desire sex but Joan likes to flirt and Jane often dreams about it.
Jane was speaking with Joan to promote the upcoming documentary film Joan Baez I Am a Noise. It was directed by Karen O’Connor, Miri Navasky, and Maeve O’Boyle. To create it, Joan gave them unprecedented access to her life and archives. By making the film, Joan opened herself up to “the bone-shattering task of remembering.” She even remembered all the lovers along the way.
Jane and Joan are both happily single. They have also both had their fair share of romance. Joan was once in a relationship with Bob Dylan.
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“People are going to be so excited to see you and Bob Dylan during your love affair,” Jane revealed. “It’s such fun seeing you both so young and playful. And he actually seems happy. You never see Dylan happy.”
Joan is happy that side of Bob is going to be put out into the world. “I hadn’t seen that footage before and I just love it. We had our baby fat. We were so young,” she mused.
Talking about Bob opened up the conversation to other exes and lovers. Jane asked about Jerry Garcia but Joan revealed she never slept with him. She did sleep with his drummer Mickey Hart. She also told Jane she never slept with her ex-husband. Jane revealed he tells a different story.
Jane made it known that she believes Joan. “I know,” she stated. “Isn’t it interesting that he told me he slept with you? While I was in Hanoi, no less.”
“I wouldn’t let that out, because I was so shocked by that,” Joan replied. “Anyway, under the bridge. Move on.”
In their golden years, the women ponder their sexuality. Both enjoy their freedom away from the constraints of being in a relationship.
“I have no desire to have sex and yet I dream about it a lot,” Jane mused. “I’m so glad I’m single. I’ve been with guys all my life, either married or almost married, and I’m just so glad that I live alone and I can do whatever I want. I like that feeling.”
Joan agrees that she enjoys her single life but has more questions about sexuality at her age. “I’m curious about myself and people’s responses to myself at my age. Am I still attractive? Am I still desirable? I don’t want to sleep with anybody, but I like to flirt and be flirted with, and I don’t know where that starts and ends,” she explained.